Comments on: Did God create evil? http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html Debate online with people! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:17:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: duhartdevon http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-14222 duhartdevon Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:53:19 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-14222 <DIV class=idc-message id=idc-comment-msg-div-224000990><A class=idc-close title="Click to Close Message" href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(224000990)"><SPAN>Close Message</SPAN></a> <strong>Comment posted.</strong> <P class=idc-nomargin><A class=idc-share-facebook style="TEXT-DECORATION: none" href="http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2 <a href="http://Fwww.debateitout.com%2Fdid-god-create-evil.html#IDComment224000990&t=I%20just%20commented%20on%20Did%20God%20create%20evil%3F%20%7C%20DEBATEitOUT.com"" rel="nofollow">Fwww.debateitout.com%2Fdid-god-create-evil.html#IDComment224000990&t=I%20just%20commented%20on%20Did%20God%20create%20evil%3F%20%7C%20DEBATEitOUT.com"</a> target=_new><SPAN class=idc-share-inner><SPAN>Share on Facebook</SPAN></SPAN></a> or <A href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(224000990)">Close Message</a>god created every thing but evil comes from the free wiill that god gave us so that he could have love not false love from people that are all the same. <DIV class=idc-message id=idc-comment-msg-div-224000990><A class=idc-close title="Click to Close Message" href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(224000990)"><SPAN>Close Message</SPAN>
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]]> By: Jawman http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-10697 Jawman Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:14:02 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-10697 There's my two cents worth. There's my two cents worth.

]]> By: Jawman http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-10696 Jawman Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:13:45 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-10696 So why do you ever make friends or start relationships? Because it's worth the ris. Having good friends, and all the wonderful things about being in love-that more than makes up for the risk of getting hurt. It's the same with God. He knew we'd rebel against him, but he also knew many people would choose to follow him. It must be worth it to him, because he not only created us with free choice, but he even created the way to bring us back to him after we rebel-through the suffering of his Son Jesus. So why do you ever make friends or start relationships?

Because it's worth the ris. Having good friends, and all the wonderful things about being in love-that more than makes up for the risk of getting hurt.

It's the same with God. He knew we'd rebel against him, but he also knew many people would choose to follow him. It must be worth it to him, because he not only created us with free choice, but he even created the way to bring us back to him after we rebel-through the suffering of his Son Jesus.

]]> By: Jawman http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-10695 Jawman Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:13:38 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-10695 "So by creating people with choices, God in effect did create evil," some people might still persist. God did not create evil and suffering. Now, it's true that he did create the potential for evil to enter the world, because that was the only way to create the potential for authentic love. But it was human beings, with our free choice, who brought that potential into reality. But if God is God, couldn't he have known what would happen? Couldn't he have anticipated the consequences of giving people free choice? (This is the question i get most.) Another way to think about it: When you start a new relationship-whether it's a friendship or a relationship that might possibly lead to falling in love-if you could foresee the possibility that the other person may sometime disappoint you or hurt you or even walk away from you completely, would you walk away? Most people would say yes here. (contineud below) "So by creating people with choices, God in effect did create evil," some people might still persist.

God did not create evil and suffering. Now, it's true that he did create the potential for evil to enter the world, because that was the only way to create the potential for authentic love. But it was human beings, with our free choice, who brought that potential into reality.

But if God is God, couldn't he have known what would happen? Couldn't he have anticipated the consequences of giving people free choice? (This is the question i get most.)

Another way to think about it: When you start a new relationship-whether it's a friendship or a relationship that might possibly lead to falling in love-if you could foresee the possibility that the other person may sometime disappoint you or hurt you or even walk away from you completely, would you walk away?
Most people would say yes here.

(contineud below)

]]> By: Jawman http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-10694 Jawman Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:13:04 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-10694 God did NOT create evil. Once God chose to create human beings with free choice, then it was up to them, rather than to God, whether there was evil or not. That's what free choice means. Built into the situation of God deciding to create human beings is the chance of evil and the suffering that results. Some people might ask, "Why didn't He create people that were only capable of lovin?" Think of it this way. If you push a button on one of those talking Barbie dolls, and it says, `I love you,' how meaningful is that? If `love' or `goodness' is something programmed into you, something you have no choice about, is it really love? Real love must involve a choice. God gave people free choice because that's the only way they could experience love, which is the greatest value in the universe, but then humans abused their freedom of choice by rejecting God and walking away from him. And that's how human suffering came into the world. (continued below) God did NOT create evil. Once God chose to create human beings with free choice, then it was up to them, rather than to God, whether there was evil or not. That's what free choice means. Built into the situation of God deciding to create human beings is the chance of evil and the suffering that results.
Some people might ask, "Why didn't He create people that were only capable of lovin?"
Think of it this way. If you push a button on one of those talking Barbie dolls, and it says, `I love you,' how meaningful is that? If `love' or `goodness' is something programmed into you, something you have no choice about, is it really love? Real love must involve a choice.
God gave people free choice because that's the only way they could experience love, which is the greatest value in the universe, but then humans abused their freedom of choice by rejecting God and walking away from him. And that's how human suffering came into the world.

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]]> By: Ariel http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-7835 Ariel Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:13:52 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-7835 Then who did? DIdn't Satan sit on God's left side? Are you saying that he has power equal to or rivaled by Gods? Then who did? DIdn't Satan sit on God's left side? Are you saying that he has power equal to or rivaled by Gods?

]]> By: James Michael http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-6463 James Michael Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:54:14 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-6463 free will was given in heaven by a original design and it manifested itself knowing haven fallen from grace with anger, hatred, bitterness, negitivity, revenge in its desire, averist for power and to be of its own ruling with a fellowship. There was war in heaven the negativity and "darkness was born" "evil" its name was Sataniel. It was cast out and the source of all evil by the nature of mankind. It is supernatural but not the original design. Now with an intermediate design things being reshaped and given purpose, so to does Evil have a purpose. It's purpose now is to be a Secret Power and the TEST FOR MANS WORTH! It Challenges the Nature of a single person which will be TEMPTED BY THE EVIL FORCE. free will was given in heaven by a original design and it manifested itself knowing haven fallen from grace with anger, hatred, bitterness, negitivity, revenge in its desire, averist for power and to be of its own ruling with a fellowship. There was war in heaven the negativity and "darkness was born" "evil" its name was Sataniel. It was cast out and the source of all evil by the nature of mankind. It is supernatural but not the original design. Now with an intermediate design things being reshaped and given purpose, so to does Evil have a purpose. It's purpose now is to be a Secret Power and the TEST FOR MANS WORTH! It Challenges the Nature of a single person which will be TEMPTED BY THE EVIL FORCE.

]]> By: Lucyp http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-6196 Lucyp Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:54:35 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-6196 If God takes credit for all the good in the world, he also has to take the credit for the bad. I'm no bible reader but even i know that in the Noah's Ark, he wiped out every living thing execpt Noahs family and two of each animal. Does that make God a mass murderer or not because it was his own creations he was wiping out? I think anyone who can do that is more than capable of other evil deeds. If God takes credit for all the good in the world, he also has to take the credit for the bad. I'm no bible reader but even i know that in the Noah's Ark, he wiped out every living thing execpt Noahs family and two of each animal. Does that make God a mass murderer or not because it was his own creations he was wiping out? I think anyone who can do that is more than capable of other evil deeds.

]]> By: Liberty94 http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-6185 Liberty94 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:32:36 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-6185 I'm pretty sure God did create Lucifer. Lucifer was a cherub, and God created the cherubs. God did not make Lucifer evil, but he did make Lucifer. I must admit that theology and doctrine are not my strong points. I'm better with politics (as I'm sure you can tell) or just plain, simple facts about God and the Bible. All that deep stuff...meh. :P I'm pretty sure God did create Lucifer. Lucifer was a cherub, and God created the cherubs. God did not make Lucifer evil, but he did make Lucifer.

I must admit that theology and doctrine are not my strong points. I'm better with politics (as I'm sure you can tell) or just plain, simple facts about God and the Bible. All that deep stuff…meh. :P

]]> By: Libertarian91 http://www.debateitout.com/did-god-create-evil.html/comment-page-1#comment-6179 Libertarian91 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:31:38 +0000 http://www.debateitout.com/?p=1702#comment-6179 Since he is omni-potent, he has the power to stop these evils. Essentially he is abetting these crimes. What a rotten being! Since he is omni-potent, he has the power to stop these evils. Essentially he is abetting these crimes. What a rotten being!

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