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		<title>By: Ermanarich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ermanarich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon me for interrupting the flow of this thread 
But I just wanted to insert my own &quot;anti muslim sentiment&quot; here&#8230; 
 
&#8220;how should homeland security COMBAT ATI MUSLIM SENTIMENTS&#8221;!!!! 
 
Are you people crazy?! How about homeland security first deals with combating Jihad extremists living in the united states not to mention the rest of the world, with a deep hatred and disdain for anything remotely western or non Muslim, ie. ATI-WESTERN sentiments. Islam is a RELIGION, not culture, not race, not ethnicity, etc&#8230;it is first and foremost an IDEOLOGY. Sharia is a totalitarian political ideologist system (institution) of oppression with the same strong anti-non Muslim sentiment. Unless your really good at multi tasking I propose we take care of one problem before taking on another. Frankly, our plate is full. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me for interrupting the flow of this thread<br />
But I just wanted to insert my own &quot;anti muslim sentiment&quot; here&hellip; </p>
<p>&ldquo;how should homeland security COMBAT ATI MUSLIM SENTIMENTS&rdquo;!!!! </p>
<p>Are you people crazy?! How about homeland security first deals with combating Jihad extremists living in the united states not to mention the rest of the world, with a deep hatred and disdain for anything remotely western or non Muslim, ie. ATI-WESTERN sentiments. Islam is a RELIGION, not culture, not race, not ethnicity, etc&hellip;it is first and foremost an IDEOLOGY. Sharia is a totalitarian political ideologist system (institution) of oppression with the same strong anti-non Muslim sentiment. Unless your really good at multi tasking I propose we take care of one problem before taking on another. Frankly, our plate is full.</p>
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		<title>By: Pusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you happen to know where that is in the bible Liberty? It would be interesting to see.

Even if it is in their it was in the old testament. Most people know that their is a big difference between the two testaments. Read the new testament then tell me that God wants to kill all non-believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you happen to know where that is in the bible Liberty? It would be interesting to see.</p>
<p>Even if it is in their it was in the old testament. Most people know that their is a big difference between the two testaments. Read the new testament then tell me that God wants to kill all non-believers.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it should be taken on a case-by-case basis.  There are radical Christians.  There are radical Buddhists.  There are radical Athiests.  There are radical Muslims. 
 
Let me ask you- as an athiest (sorry for assuming you were a Christian, BTW.  You sounded kind of like one. *headslap*) do you judge your own sect of the population by the radicals who think religious people should be prevented from having children, and should be forced to &#039;acclimate&#039; (in other words- believe what &#039;science&#039; tells us) whether we want to or no? 
 
Should I judge all athiests by that?  I have heard athiests say this.  They&#039;re insane.  But they are no less insane than the Muslims who state that all people who do not believe Allah should be killed.  Or the Christians who say abortion doctors should be slaughtered whole-sale. 
 
That is not right ,as I am sure we can all agree.  We should not judge an entire set of people just because a few take a couple commands/ideas out of context. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it should be taken on a case-by-case basis.  There are radical Christians.  There are radical Buddhists.  There are radical Athiests.  There are radical Muslims. </p>
<p>Let me ask you- as an athiest (sorry for assuming you were a Christian, BTW.  You sounded kind of like one. *headslap*) do you judge your own sect of the population by the radicals who think religious people should be prevented from having children, and should be forced to &#39;acclimate&#39; (in other words- believe what &#39;science&#39; tells us) whether we want to or no? </p>
<p>Should I judge all athiests by that?  I have heard athiests say this.  They&#39;re insane.  But they are no less insane than the Muslims who state that all people who do not believe Allah should be killed.  Or the Christians who say abortion doctors should be slaughtered whole-sale. </p>
<p>That is not right ,as I am sure we can all agree.  We should not judge an entire set of people just because a few take a couple commands/ideas out of context.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, first atheism is not the equivalent of religion atheism is the equivalent of theism.  So there are secular philosophies which could be said to be like religions (examples are Marxism, Humanism, Objectivism, Skepticism)  They each have their own doctrines.  lumping all atheists together is like lumping together all people who believe in some form of god(s) 
 
And yes.  I do judge each secular world view by its founding documents / books.  If you don&#039;t take a religion / philosophy to heart, then don&#039;t claim to be a member of it, that&#039;s disingenuous.  Take the texts literally, if you don&#039;t then you&#039;re admitting that there&#039;s an external set of criteria that supersede the text as the founding principles of your world view.  So any non-literalist really believes in something that they have not bothered to clearly define.  That&#039;s fine if you&#039;re still searching.  but if you don&#039;t know what you believe, then what right do you have to take the religion of faithful people and delude it and call yourself a Christian / Muslim / etc? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, first atheism is not the equivalent of religion atheism is the equivalent of theism.  So there are secular philosophies which could be said to be like religions (examples are Marxism, Humanism, Objectivism, Skepticism)  They each have their own doctrines.  lumping all atheists together is like lumping together all people who believe in some form of god(s) </p>
<p>And yes.  I do judge each secular world view by its founding documents / books.  If you don&#039;t take a religion / philosophy to heart, then don&#039;t claim to be a member of it, that&#039;s disingenuous.  Take the texts literally, if you don&#039;t then you&#039;re admitting that there&#039;s an external set of criteria that supersede the text as the founding principles of your world view.  So any non-literalist really believes in something that they have not bothered to clearly define.  That&#039;s fine if you&#039;re still searching.  but if you don&#039;t know what you believe, then what right do you have to take the religion of faithful people and delude it and call yourself a Christian / Muslim / etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry for assuming you were a Christian.  From your debate/way of speaking, I assumed.  
 
I actually own a paper copy of the Koran (or Qur&#039;an, which looks so much cooler. :P ) and am planning on reading it soon.  I want to find out for myself if the radicals are merely taking Mohammad&#039;s words out of context, or if his book actually says that. ^.^ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry for assuming you were a Christian.  From your debate/way of speaking, I assumed.  </p>
<p>I actually own a paper copy of the Koran (or Qur&#039;an, which looks so much cooler. <img src='http://www.debateitout.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and am planning on reading it soon.  I want to find out for myself if the radicals are merely taking Mohammad&#039;s words out of context, or if his book actually says that. ^.^</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the Koran 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html&lt;/a&gt; 
 
And I&#039;m not a Christian.  I&#039;m an Objectivist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s the Koran<br />
<a href="http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html" target="_blank">http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html</a> </p>
<p>And I&#039;m not a Christian.  I&#039;m an Objectivist.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me ask you- have you read the Koran or are you just going off what people have told you? 
 
I myself have never read the Koran.  It&#039;s on my to-do list. ;)  But let&#039;s admit it- if we take some passages in the Bible, we can say that the Bible condones violence against unbelievers.  What about the passages in the OT where God talks about killing entire nations?  So obviously, God thinks genocide is OK in certain circumstances. 
 
But I&#039;m pretty sure that neither you nor I believe that- but that does not make us un-Christian. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me ask you- have you read the Koran or are you just going off what people have told you? </p>
<p>I myself have never read the Koran.  It&#039;s on my to-do list. <img src='http://www.debateitout.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   But let&#039;s admit it- if we take some passages in the Bible, we can say that the Bible condones violence against unbelievers.  What about the passages in the OT where God talks about killing entire nations?  So obviously, God thinks genocide is OK in certain circumstances. </p>
<p>But I&#039;m pretty sure that neither you nor I believe that- but that does not make us un-Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no such thing as a moderate.  Moderates are just people who like to pretend that their morality comes from the same source as literalists, but don&#039;t really hold themselves to any standards.  If you don&#039;t agree with the Bible, you&#039;re not a real Christian.  If you don&#039;t agree with the Koran, you&#039;re not a real Muslim.  This idea of &#039;moderates&#039; is a myth.  If those &#039;moderates&#039; actually bothered to read the holy books they claim inspire their lives, they&#039;d either have to become extremists or recant their faith.  Otherwise they&#039;re just hypocrites. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s no such thing as a moderate.  Moderates are just people who like to pretend that their morality comes from the same source as literalists, but don&#039;t really hold themselves to any standards.  If you don&#039;t agree with the Bible, you&#039;re not a real Christian.  If you don&#039;t agree with the Koran, you&#039;re not a real Muslim.  This idea of &#039;moderates&#039; is a myth.  If those &#039;moderates&#039; actually bothered to read the holy books they claim inspire their lives, they&#039;d either have to become extremists or recant their faith.  Otherwise they&#039;re just hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Clunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Clunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as an atheist myself, I can non-hypocritically state that I judge all religions (and in fact all belief systems) by their literalists. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as an atheist myself, I can non-hypocritically state that I judge all religions (and in fact all belief systems) by their literalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no reason to trust anyone, regardless of the belief system or ethnicity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no reason to trust anyone, regardless of the belief system or ethnicity.</p>
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